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SPOILED!: Curse of Chucky

9/25/2013

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When it comes to TV shows and movies, we have to walk around on eggshells. We've all been at the mercy of not being caught up with a certain show or film, trying desperately to avoid spoilers, yet trying to stay connected at the same time. And we've all been at the other end of that conundrum, having just watched an amazing episode or movie and wanting to talk about it with anyone and everyone that's seen it, too. This new article focuses on the latter. BELOW CONTAINS SPOILERS AND NOTHING BUT SPOILERS! So, if you haven't seen Curse of Chucky, and want to remain spoiler-free until then, run. RUN NOW! Otherwise, get ready for some awesome spoiler discussion!

Timeline & References to Previous Films

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It's been rumored since early on in Curse of Chucky's production that the film takes place AFTER Child's Play 3 but BEFORE Bride of Chucky. We can finally put these rumors to rest due to a scene involving Nica conducting an internet search for "Chucky Doll Evidence." Several articles all come up, but if you look closely, the articles reference the location of the previous films (Los Angeles for "Seed," Niagra Falls & Hackensack for "Bride," Kent Military for "3," etc.) This lets us know that "Bride" and "Seed" did indeed take place. Further confirmation that we're in the here and now with "Curse" is the Chucky monologue scene. Chucky mentions that he's been going after Nica's family for 25 years, which would place the film in 2013.

While some may be disappointed in this news, I enjoy that they didn't try to erase any history. That's far too often what happens these days, especially with horror franchises. It's hard to tell where to place most other films. "Curse" does a fantastic job of wrapping everything together, and the spoilers we'll touch upon in the next few sections show just that.

Chucky Comes Alive

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Tough to really call this one a spoiler, but if you've been keeping up with interviews about the film, it was said that Writer/Director Don Mancini would toy with the audience a bit more. This meant less "alive time" for Chucky. This is true, but only in a sense. It's not long before we see Chucky actually move, as he reaches out for Alice in a jump scare scene early in the film. However, we don't hear Brad Dourif's first line of dialogue until 45 minutes into the film, almost exactly halfway through the film's run time. From there, there's plenty of Brad Dourif, but don't get discouraged if you came to hear Chucky talk. He does plenty of that, just not early on.

Why Chucky's Here

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So, what makes Nica's family special enough for Chucky to show up on their doorstep? We're kept in the dark about the reasoning for 80% of the film, but there are small references in the sunflower paintings Sarah makes, as well as the home movies Nica shows to Jill and Ian. Meeting their family at what looks like a picnic, Charles Lee Ray quickly grows fond of Sarah and her family. Charles offs the dad soon after and kidnaps Sarah, keeping her in a basement. Sarah somehow notifies authorities, and before fleeing, Charles stabs Sarah in the belly, paralyzing Nica inside.

It's great to see Brad back in an on-screen appearance; his first in the series since the original film. That in itself is a HUGE deal for most fans. The backstory works and seems well connected throughout the film. It also sheds a bit more light on Ray's instability and gives a jump-off point for the first film. Ray flees the basement, only to be chased down and shot in the toy store by Detective Mike Norris. They even include footage straight from the original film! These scenes give us more background for the series than any of the other films combined!

How Chucky Got There

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How does Chucky get from home to home in that giant package? He certainly can't mail himself, now can he? The truth is: He has a little help from his friends. After the court scene where Nica is found guilty for all the murders that occur in the house throughout the film, a police officer grabs Chucky from the evidence and hops in his car. He then places a phone call, telling the person on the other end not to forget his money. Then, in a scene that calls back to Bride of Chucky, Tiffany rises from the backseat of the car and slices the officer's throat open. We next see Tiffany open the bag and ask Chucky "So, who's next?" We then see Tiffany shipping a rather large package, where it ends up where Alice is now living.

If you were going to bring Jennifer Tilly back, this was the perfect way to do it. I, for one, had grown a bit tired of seeing so much Tilly. It's not that I don't like Tilly, but she had become the focus of the series it seemed. This brings her back in a way that calls back to that incredible opening we saw in "Bride." It also explains some logistical loose ends.

Hide the Soul Works! Or Does it??

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Throughout the series, Chucky's main goal is always to transfer his soul from the doll to another human being. In one of the more eyebrow-raising moments of "Curse," it appears that Chucky finally gets his opportunity. Chucky is shipped to Alice's grandmothers house, where she's staying after the murder of her mother and father. Alice arrives home from school to see an opened package on the table and no grandmother in sight. Chucky pops up behind Alice, scaring for a second. However, Alice is glad to see Chucky again, as Alice still believes it was Nica who killed everyone. With Grandma "in the cellar," Chucky appears to have an open shot at transferring his soul with a willing and naive participant. However, the next spoiler we'll talk about seems to indicate that Chucky was unsuccessful, as it happens "six months later,"and Chucky is still a doll.

Now, there are many theories as to what could have happened. The "six months later" scene happens after the credits and could just be an easter egg and not canon. However, I think that if this were true, they wouldn't have given us a time frame for it. Another theory is that by Alice's grandmother popping up at the end of the film, that could've disrupted the ritual, causing Alice to run and setting up the events of what could be the next film in the series. If that's the case, then we're ultimately given spoilers by the scene after the credits for the next film. I'm sure there are many other ways this could work out, but it is something that has left me scratching my head a bit, but maybe that's exactly what they want.

Andy Barclay, you Beautiful Son of a Bitch...

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If ever there were a reason to stay after the credits, this is it. With no reference to how Andy Barclay's been since 1991, fans had always wondered what Andy had been up to. Was he dead? Was he living a normal life? Was he piling up assault weapons and mapping out an intricate plan to slay Chucky once and for all? While the scene after the credits doesn't give us too many details, it does let a few slip. First off, Andy is alive and well, living in an apartment building. He receives a package he knows all too well, brings it in, and has a phone call with his mom. The phone call actually fills us in on a few things. One, Karen Barclay is alive and it sounds like she's living on her own and not in a mental hospital. Secondly, Andy says "Say hi to Mike for me," which indicates that she's married to (or at least involved with) Detective Mike Norris from the first film. It could be a different Mike, I suppose, but I'd like to think it's Norris. We can also tell by the pictures and the certificate from Kent Military Academy displayed that Andy had accepted his life as a military man, maybe even spending much of the 2000's out of the country. Andy pulls a rifle on Chucky and says "Play with this" as he blasts him in the face to end the film.

This might have been the most satisfying thing in the whole movie. Even my wife, who's not a fan of the series but knows the lore, was excited to see this scene. I've watched it several times since, and it gets me every single time. Props to Don Mancini and Alex Vincent for making this happen. You both made a lot of fans VERY happy with this small cameo. 

All these great developments bring new blood to the series. I'm more excited than I've ever been for the Child's Play franchise, and I look forward to more Don Mancini films. Mancini's been in the business for over 25 years now, and it feels like he's hitting his stride. I can't wait for the Blu Ray and all the extras that come along with it. I yearn to hear that commentary track! Here's to everyone involved with the film. You all deserve a standing ovation for this one...

54 Comments
cody link
9/27/2013 07:25:12 am

Yeah, I hope the grandmother distracted Chucky's ritual with Alice. It would be really cold if Alice's soul transferred in her body and honestly, a lot of fans would be disappointed if that did happen killing Alice suffocating her. I think Chucky was trying to take over her body and he failed yet again like with Andy and Tyler from the previous films

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Lex Marston
9/27/2013 03:27:31 pm

I hope this is the case, too. Would make a good jumping off point for another film.

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tress
11/4/2013 03:27:23 pm

I honestly doubt the ritual was interrupted between Chucky/Ray and Alice. I believe that the 6 month time frame between the possession of Alice and the arrival of the doll at Andy's house gives perfect leeway for another film in the saga, and an especially horrific child possession story at that.

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kyle
11/19/2013 12:48:40 pm

Actually, the existence of another movie or saga between the 6 month time frame would be more logical if Chucky did FAIL transferring his soul. And it's obvious that that the Chucky that was sent to Andy wasn't Alice, with the knifem and the grin, and the voice.

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7/2/2014 03:41:18 pm

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Aki
2/1/2014 07:01:51 am

I'm quite new to the chucky franchise, but I was wondering... Maybe there are multiple chucky... Since he has been destroyed and put back together... Maybe it possible his soul has been fragmented and he can't make a full transfer or he did do a transfer with alice and has stolen her body but alice attacked him hence the suffocation scene.

The one with andy could be one of his pieces which would make way for a multiple chucky scenario and the goal is to gather up his soul and make him whole

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11/19/2016 01:35:56 pm

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jasonjrf
4/13/2014 12:03:35 am

I think the hiding the soul didnt work because in the first movie it was stated he needed to transfer the his soul into the person he first revealed his tru self to. That is Andy so he tried hide the soul on the girl didnt work he relized then shipped himself to Andy.

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jlc
7/22/2014 06:13:39 pm

Actually its Tyler from part 3 if you follow cannon. In part 3 he got a new body the body he has had from then on. They have conveniently ignored the original cannon and in Bride made up the stupid amulet story.

chukydoilevildencepoiled
8/30/2014 04:14:26 pm

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Myuutsuu
1/10/2015 09:14:23 am

I think because glen/Glenda has not been mention and due to the fact it was a little girl in this film perhaps he was taking the little girls soul for Glenda as they said they weren't messing up the film orders etc

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tension_creator
9/28/2013 03:25:21 pm

i didn't get that scene of the lady in police car ...who is she ...where she come from ...whats her story??
btw film was good ... a really good link with the previous movies

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Lex Marston
9/29/2013 01:45:10 pm

That was Tiffany. She was essentially stealing Chucky to send to other people. It's a call back to the beginning of Bride of Chucky.

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Wat
10/27/2013 01:41:12 pm

No idea

Mackenzie link
10/31/2013 08:50:27 pm

I don't get at the end to the glir

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Jennifer Tilly
11/25/2013 08:39:26 am

How did u see the other films but you don't know who Tiffany is :o

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MJ link
10/2/2013 01:27:03 pm

I think showing 'six months later' and being in the doll still shows that chicly obviously failed and probably killed Alice, he wouldn't have just let her go, unless he did like with Andy.
Another point, if Curse takes place after all the previous movies, like it shows in Nica's wen search, then how is jennifer tilly's character in her human form? Chucky transferred her soul to the doll in Bride of Chucky.

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JM
10/2/2013 08:42:47 pm

Following all the previous sequels of the Child's Play, Tiffany's soul was transferred to Jennifer Tily's Body in The Seed of Chucky.

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in the seed of Chucky jennifer tilly transfered her soul to a human body u all need too watch all the chucky movies to really get what's going on
10/2/2013 08:52:22 pm

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Lex Marston
10/3/2013 04:31:58 am

Pretty much what they said. Tiffany and Glen/Glenda's souls are transferred into humans at the end of Seed.

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Kevin
12/17/2014 05:45:44 pm

yes i remember that

hazelmaepnales link
10/4/2013 06:15:32 pm

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Jake
10/7/2013 01:02:31 pm

I think Alice was in the the Chucky doll at the end and Andy killed Alice!!!!

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Rob link
10/8/2013 03:38:58 pm

Its not Alice, How would she know Andy's name and be holding a knife? its the perfect and most satisfying end to the franchise. and from what i read curse takes place after childs play 3, its ignoring bride and seed. or at least was supposed to. the whole tiffany scene is head scratching. u could suppose the events of beginning of bride happened and instead of the rest of the bride story going the way it did, chuck had tiff mail him to the house to setup the curse sequel and essentially the new 4th movie. what tiffany says about they never learn could be taken as a reference from bride or as a homage to the fans that really know whats going on like reading between the lines. if i was making curse and wanted to ignore the last 2 films i would have at least kept the beginning of bride and after tiffany stitched him up and brought chuck back cut directly to when chucky was mailed to the house. done deal all loose ends to have a fresh sequel is all set. and yes i wish they explained the alice ending better i hope her character is ok and i wish the wheel chair girl didn't end up in the insance asylum that sucks . and it makes no sense all she had to do was show police the NANNY CAM FOOTAGE!!!! and finally theres proof of chucky being real so that plot hole kinda ruins it for me. but the ending with andy is amazing and the fact its the same child actor its just awesome. this is how i want the franchise to end with andy tieing up loose ends.

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Lex Marston
10/9/2013 09:31:22 am

This definitely, 100% guaranteed, takes place after Bride and Seed. Mancini wouldn't want to ignore those two films, as he is very fond of them. Tiffany was transferred into Jennifer Tilly's body at the end of Seed, so we see Jennifer Tilly, but with the soul of Tiffany in this movie. As for the NannyCam footage, there's a possibility that the judge threw it out because it may have been made by Nica as a fallback to prove her innocence. No one is going to believe a killer doll unless they're face to face with it. Might by loose logic, but I wouldn't call it a plot hole. The cam never actually shows Chucky committing murder.

JustinW
10/23/2013 08:51:16 am

I was wondering about the nanny cam too. All it would take is to get some techies in there and view to footage and see that is wasn't altered, of course as that would impossible if they pull the video straight from the nanny cam and not just a video. If anything it would at least show that she didn't kill anyone.

Ian
11/17/2013 06:28:26 am

First it takes place after bride and seed, you can see that when the murders from those two films are mentioned on the Google search that Alice does. Now as for the Nanny Cam footage I'd agree with you except we're talking about chucky here who patiently waited for the cops to come and find Alice to implicate her in the murders (probably just as a form of punishment instead of killing her). Now given that we know he waited instead of killing her (as it seemed he was certainly capable of doing so) why would we assume he wouldn't just delete the Nanny cam footage?

QUEIONA LUSTER link
1/14/2014 02:25:10 am

the curse of chucky is the best chucky movie but you guys didnt make the movie seem as real as itk was suppose to be but you guys did a great job doing it but i hope when yall make another curse of chucky make chucky go outsude more like the very 1st chucky he killed more people out sid ejust trying to get to andy backlay cause he was the only boy who nkew his secret so make the movie more nofiction but i loved the movie i watch it mostly every day so take my word and make the movie the write way----i love the move just make it more nonfiction caus there are a l;ot of bad comments on you tube and they did not like it bu there were a lot of googd coments------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jpl
10/8/2013 07:09:41 pm

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EXACTLY! What happened to the nanny footage?
10/8/2013 08:24:53 pm

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tension_creator
10/11/2013 12:15:01 pm

we saw chucky, tiffany as jennifer a link to first movie but what about glen and glenda no sign of them in curse ??

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Lex Marston
10/12/2013 01:59:07 pm

Just something that's not there. I personally don't mind it, though. I can see some folks wanted to know.

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do all of your think that these dolls can really cum alive in real life
10/26/2013 05:58:31 am

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this guy has a point.....TEAM JASON VOORHEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:) (but Chucky is awsome too)
1/24/2014 11:40:42 am

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charles link
10/28/2013 04:15:57 pm

The scene from bride in the beginning is from the end of curse when she kills the cop it is like a before all of this so to speak so don brings all the chucky movies together in one

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uglypeople
10/31/2013 09:53:14 am

it's not supposed to be the same scene. this film is set after bride and seed. it's quite simply showing that Tiffany is helping chucky to carry out his murders by using dirty cops to deliver him. a nod to the opening of bride but in no way the same scene.

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aj
11/2/2013 09:39:55 am

I thought chucky could only put his soul back in Andy, so why was he trying it with Alice??? I'm confused with that part

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SomeTurtle
1/14/2014 02:10:08 am

I'm a little late but I can explain that. I believe it's the third movie when he ends up at the military camp and he's introduced to Tyler after Tyler rips open the package intended for Andy.

He says something the lines of "New body and I haven't revealed my new identity to anyone yet.". Which I believe refers to the first movie when he confronts his voodoo buddy and is told that he can only transfer into the body of the first person to know his real name(which he disclosed to Andy previously).

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i still fon't get how this can take place before cp3 but before bride of chucky bcuss in the end of curse of chucky tiffany is abviously in human form in jennifer tillys body And where is glen? also how was chucky still in doll form in the begining of b
11/4/2013 12:04:26 pm

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who is the girl next to andy and his mom? she looks like kyle in child's play 2
11/4/2013 02:58:49 pm

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Anonymous
11/26/2013 11:40:40 am

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Anonymous
11/26/2013 11:41:39 am

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Anonym
12/25/2013 12:47:08 pm

Ok i think that we have to see it like this: chucky maybe made a deal with tiffany about leaving her and there kids alone if she helped get around to all those people. Also tiffany says Works every time" when she caught the Cops throat. Which means she has done it before.

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jason voorhees is better than any of the horror icons, we all know that
1/20/2014 11:24:11 am

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The ending made no sense to me the part where Charles lee Ray escaped after stabbing her and ran into the you store but in the first movie he had come from a robbery I think and his friend Eddie left him there
2/17/2014 11:11:07 pm

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Chuckylover
7/21/2014 02:32:56 am

I DONT GET IT! Is it Tiffany in Jennifer Tilly's body in the end of Curse of Chucky or is it an explanation how Tiffany got Chucky in Bride of Chucky? I mean did Curse of Chucky take place before Bride and Seed?

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darin keen
12/26/2014 01:44:54 am

Oh My Fucking God Seriously You Guy's Dont You Ever Know What's Really Happenning?... When I've Read Alllll You Guy's Comments Well Allll Of You Guy's Are A Complete Dumbasses First Of All We Need Bride Of Chucky So That Tiffany Can Stitch Him Back Together And Bring Him Bak From The Dead. second The End Of Seed Of Chucky Tiffany Got Her Body Back But In Jennifers Body She Needs Her Body Back So That She Can Shift Chucky Off By Mailing Him To His Past Enemies. Third Glen And Glenda Are With Diffany But She Can't Take Them With Her The Killing The Cop And Shifting Chucky Off But The Twins Are In The Hotel Waiting For Their Parents To Finished The Goddamn Jobs. Fourth About Alice Shits Her Grandma Is Alive Again Cause Chucky Try To Transfer His Soul In To Alice Body Cause That's Chuckys New Body It's Not Andys Or Tylers Anymore Cause Alice Is His Third New Body And Fail Again So Went To Andys Place To Kill Andy For Ruining Chuckys New Body Not Once But Twice And Now Alice Grandma Ruined The Ritual And When Alice Grandma Try To Save Alice From The Killer Doll So Chucky Have To Kill Them Both But Once Again Failed. Fifth I Am The Real Chucky That Know What Happens,Remembers Everything,Remembering The Ritural Spell By Heart From The First/Second/Thrid/Fourth/Fifth And Sixth Spell I Can Remember It A Lot Better Then You Guy's Cause I Am The Real Chucky Fan But You Guy's Are Stupid,Confusing And Don't Make Sense Sorry!

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7/6/2015 04:00:26 pm

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Dillon link
7/24/2016 01:11:14 pm

The only thing that does not make sense to me, is in bride of chucky it is said that Charles lee ray left a ring on the counter from some murder which tiffany thought all that time it was for her because he was going to purpose. She even said she worse it ever since the night he was gunned down in the toy store. So why the heck in curse of chucky do they make it look like he was a psychotic weirdo with another woman holding her hostage and trying to be a family? I thought he was living with tiffany?! Was he living a double life as Charles lee ray?

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Adam
7/29/2016 08:51:49 pm

It's made apparent in Bride of Chucky that, in the period leading up to his death, Charles Lee Ray wasn't as in love with Tiffany as she was with him. He bursts out laughing when she suggests that he'd planned to propose marriage to her. He does seem to fall for her later in 'Bride', when he sees her murder that couple in the Niagra Falls hotel. But back when he was human, it appears he wasn't so into Tiffany that he'd lost all interest in other women.

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Kristen
10/19/2016 05:08:52 am

What I cannot wrap my mind around is in the movie bride of chucky, Jennifer tilly plays a human before she gets transferred into the doll. And then in seed of chucky, Jennifer Tilly is back as a Hollywood actress playing herself. Why are we ignoring the fact that Jennifer tilly played the role of Tiffany in bride of chucky and then seed of chucky as herself.. ?? I don't like how they made Charles lee Rey look so soft "being in love" when he was never portrayed as a lover in the original three.

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Adam
2/18/2017 06:55:16 pm

Curse of Chucky doesn't ignore the fact that Tilly played two different characters in Bride and Seed. By the end of Seed, Tiffany had transferred her soul into Jennifer Tilly's body, and that's the same body she has in Curse. Apparently, she bleached her hair some time between the two films to look more like her old self, but it's still Tilly's body, not her original body, which would be a 15 year old corpse by the time of Curse.

The only weird thing is why Tiffany and that fictional version of Jennifer Tilly look so alike in the first place. They look like they could've been identical twins separated at birth, but they're not supposed to be biologically related in any way.

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9/6/2017 06:04:07 pm

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